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The Sages tend to be faster, more athletic rods, (US made if thats important to you)generally preferred in the West, imitated by others, a bit more expensive, but why waste money on an imitation? Dave Biased, they are made down the road.

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I will say one thing about T&T. They have the prettiest rod cases in the business.

Plus I like the way they include a plastic dowel with their rod bags so that you don’t accidentally damage the rod tip by attempting to shove it into a folded bag.  My guess regarding the rod tube is that it’s from REC. Noticed that some of the Winston’s now appear to be using REC cases (or really good knock-offs). Mu

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My apologies to Mu and the rest of you. If I would have known he meant one east-coast sissy boy in particular, rather than collectively, I would’ve understood immediately this was an inside joke.

My apologies too, soft-hackle.  I purposely did not append a to my post because it was in response to Wayne – who really does have a love affair with T&T.  There are lots of people here on ROFF and the regular posters by virtue of their familiarity with one another often make some people feel excluded.  But hey, I’m glad you spoke up cuz it gave us all a chance to know each other a little better than we did before.  No harm done. BTW, I do like using baitcasting equipment on occasion.  Feeling the humming of a fine piece of machinery under my thumb and making pinpoint casts into cover – well there is a certain pleasure to it.  I also own a minnow trap.  I find trapping/gathering my own bait to be fun too. Sometimes chucking a big spoon from the beach and watching it disappear behind the third gut is a thing of beauty in itself.  A favorite technique of mine for largemouth bass is to pitch an unweighted plastic worm and let it sink ever so slowly, twitching it so that it seems barely alive, until either I can’t stand it any more and have to recast or the fish can’t stand it any more and pounces upon the lure.  Even so, I find that 98% of my fishing is done with a fly rod.  I like tying up my own flies and testing them afield.  In fact I made a commitment in June to fish a single fly for three straight months (2 trips per week) to see if it really was effective or not.  Although I too feel that it’s silly for some people to get hung up on their equipment and techniques, I don’t begrudge them. We all have our own reasons why we fish – but in general most of us do it because it’s fun, plain and simple. Mu

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My apologies to Mu and the rest of you. If I would have known he meant one east-coast sissy boy in particular, rather than collectively, I would’ve understood immediately this was an inside joke. Soft Hackle – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mu is a highly respected and *cliquish* member of ROFF, thus I am sure he is not in the least confuse as to which rod is best used for flyfishin’!

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I built a Sage 10 wt. RPL+ about 6 years ago. Have used it to catch about 500 salmon all the species in alaska. It is without a doubt the best rod I have ever fished with!! I have no experience with T&T so i can not offer any suggestions along that line. You will however be quite happy with any Sage

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Mu is a highly respected and *cliquish* member of ROFF, thus I am sure he is not in the least confuse as to which rod is best used for flyfishin’! Op

 I personally don’t – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – confuse my flyrod with my real rod, as you seem to be doing. Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. Mu yfitgs

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to the scene of his latest crimes and snibbled: Discussions on the relative merits of various pieces of equipment are all well and good, but   It’s the stupidity of the question.  Its like asking "Plastic vs. Plastic". George was not here.  It’s your imagination.

And you were WAY too optimistic, wayno… /daytripper (Shall we proceed apace to Game 2?

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Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. …qualities with a certain brand of rod. I personally don’t confuse my flyrod with my real rod, as you seem to be doing. LOL. No worries, soft-hackle. Mu was simply yanking the chain of Wayno (the T&T bigot) and daytripper (the Winston bigot).

This should illustrate that we fully tolerate the unfortunate naifs who get burned by their lack of historical perspective Anyway…One should consider that there are few more cordial bigots than Winston bigots (if I do say so myself I consider myself in the very good company of those similarly afflicted – even those who occasionally experience moments of weakness and fall off the wagon to acquire a Sage, Loomis, TT, or even <shudder Scott… (Orvis, however, is right out!!) [I'll also take this opportunity to point out to my good friend in The Old North State that my littlest Winston 6/2 stood up to an entire day in the hands of the notorious Pamlico Jim Roberts on Upper Lower Middle Upper Creek, whilst your 8/2 TT didn't even survive the walk in. You had the wrong dog, son ] /daytripper (Smoke’em, fish’em, gotta love dem Winstons!

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Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. …qualities with a certain brand of rod. I personally don’t confuse my flyrod with my real rod, as you seem to be doing.

LOL. No worries, soft-hackle. Mu was simply yanking the chain of Wayno (the T&T bigot) and daytripper (the Winston bigot). –Steve

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Sage discontinued the two best lines they ever made, the LL and SPL+. When they did that I started building T&T rods and appreciated the advantages of T&T over anything else I have built including Winston. Just curious – Do you sling meat from a baitcasting rig when the flyfishing is slow? The reason I ask is that baitcasters and bassholes are the only types of self-styled anglers who associate manhood with the brand of "fishing pole" being used. Most genuine anglers are confident enough in themselves not to compensate for shortcomings by identifying their personal qualities with a certain brand of rod. I personally don’t confuse my flyrod with my real rod, as you seem to be doing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. Mu yfitgs

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Discussions on the relative merits of various pieces of equipment are all well and good, but  

It’s the stupidity of the question.  Its like asking "Plastic vs. Plastic". George was not here.  It’s your imagination.

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This is probably going to create a flame, but before I went to the expense of building one of these two rods, I would see if a local fly shops had them in stock and perhaps would let you cast them. I own one of the two rods and have tried the other. I am not the world’s greatest caster, but one fits my casting style much better than the other. After 65 years in this sport, I think a lot of people buy rods based upon brand name rather than trying to find one that fits your particular casting style and ability.

There is a great deal of truth in what you say.  On the other hand, fly casters are much more adaptable than are the tools they use.  Much is written here about the characteristics of various pieces of equipment and how they may suit one person’s ability and style more than another’s.  Much less attention is given to the fact that any competent caster can do pretty well with just about any broomstick or girder.  If a lot of people buy based on considerations other than what best suits their own personal physics it is probably just as well.  Even test casting a rod, reel, and line combination out in the parking lot for ten minutes isn’t really going to tell you all that much about performance out in the creek.  And in truth, one setup might suit an individual angler very well under a certain set of circumstances and be entirely unsatisfactory given different conditions even in the same stretch of a single stream. Discussions on the relative merits of various pieces of equipment are all well and good, but I think most anglers would benefit more from analysis of their own performance than they do from that of their gear. Wolfgang who is dreadfully sorry about the lack of heat.      

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I, my ultimate preference is T&T.    good post.  many will agree. wayno

Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. Mu yfitgs

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I, my ultimate preference is T&T. good post.  many will agree. wayno Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. Mu yfitgs

    unethical. wayno yfitons (thwtgs) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I’m looking to build a new 9 wt. rod for the saltwater and stealhead.  I’m between the Sage RPLXi and the Winston Boron XTR.  Any opinions on which is better.  I know its about personal preference but I’d like some outside opinions.

I don’t know about the Winston, but I have a Sage RPLXi 9 weight. Very powerful rod. It’s perfect for bonefish, and particularly for casting heavy flies into a stiff wind. I’ve used it for steelhead, but I feel it’s too fast (i.e., stiff) for that.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I, my ultimate preference is T&T. good post.  many will agree. wayno Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. Mu yfitgs     unethical.

Hey, Wayno. How’s that T&T with the "special action" that you loaned to Pamlico Jim? I will say one thing about T&T. They have the prettiest rod cases in the business.

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Hey, Wayno. How’s that T&T with the "special action" that you loaned to Pamlico Jim?

He got it repaired, but it has lost a certain charm now. <g — Charlie…

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Hey, Wayno. How’s that T&T with the "special action" that you loaned to Pamlico Jim?

    that is the rod i am using in zimbo’s pics of our recent small water adventure. they repaired it at no cost.  it is a wonder of an 8′ 2wt.     thanks for askin.  :) your friend in the old north state wayno

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I’d go for the Sage personally. Clark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I, my ultimate preference is T&T. good post.  many will agree. wayno Yeah, many an east-coast sissy boy will agree! Think Sage. Mu yfitgs

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Of the two, for pure casting ability the XTR, even I can shoot an entire line with the darn thing,  as an overall fishing rod the RPLXi, tho I would suggest you consider the BL5 from Winston. Rod seems soft at first and it is a *soft action* SW rod, but back cast once and let it go…,

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to build a new 9 wt. rod for the saltwater and stealhead.  I’m between the Sage RPLXi and the Winston Boron XTR.  Any opinions on which is better.  I know its about personal preference but I’d like some outside opinions. Thanks Dru

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This is probably going to create a flame, but before I went to the expense of building one of these two rods, I would see if a local fly shops had them in stock and perhaps would let you cast them. I own one of the two rods and have tried the other. I am not the world’s greatest caster, but one fits my casting style much better than the other. After 65 years in this sport, I think a lot of people buy rods based upon brand name rather than trying to find one that fits your particular casting style and ability. Jack in Tn.

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This is probably going to create a flame, but before I went to the expense of building one of these two rods, I would see if a local fly shops had them in stock and perhaps would let you cast them. I own one of the two rods and have tried the other. I am not the world’s greatest caster, but one fits my casting style much better than the other. After 65 years in this sport, I think a lot of people buy rods based upon brand name rather than trying to find one that fits your particular casting style and ability. Jack in Tn.

it might muddy the water a bit, but all the rods listed are extremely nice rods that cast very well.  i personally fish the sage rplxi’s quite a bit… but have cast the winstons and like them too… and the scott’s aint too shabby either… and the t&t’s cast beautifully… and so do the st. croix legend ultras (as a lower cost alternative). chris

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I, my ultimate preference is T&T. Soft Hackle

        good post.  many will agree. wayno

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I prefer Sage to Winston for building rods. True, Winston aesthetics are superior but if you are building the rod you can select your own components. However, my ultimate preference is T&T. Soft Hackle – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to build a new 9 wt. rod for the saltwater and stealhead.  I’m between the Sage RPLXi and the Winston Boron XTR.  Any opinions on which is better.  I know its about personal preference but I’d like some outside opinions. Thanks Dru

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I’m looking to build a new 9 wt. rod for the saltwater and stealhead.  I’m between the Sage RPLXi and the Winston Boron XTR.  Any opinions on which is better.  I know its about personal preference but I’d like some outside opinions. Thanks Dru

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Looking for Evil Colorful Nymphs Flash in the net.. Anyone have some ideas ? Thanks… Phil..

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Looking for Evil Colorful Nymphs Flash in the net.. Anyone have some ideas ? Thanks… Phil..

What, we didn’t ignore you enough the first time you posted this question? Kavin

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Looking for Evil Colorful Nymphs Flash in the net.. Anyone have some ideas ? Thanks… Phil..

Hey, Phil.  I started on a CB550 but also owned a 1998 Sportster.  Sold it to finance becoming certified to teach art in Pennsylvania.  I’d rather have the Sporty back though.  Getting a f-t art teaching position is durn difficult.  I own an old 650 now which is fun, but not an H-D. Uh, *on topic*, though, I’d recommend you visit Yahoo! and just do a search for Tattoos. That’s going to be needle-in-a-haystack, but it may be the only way. Whatever you do, don’t type _nymph flash_ unless you enjoy fly fishing, okay? Good luck. — Curt

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I scribbled: [snip] Whatever you do, don’t type _nymph flash_ unless you enjoy fly fishing, okay? Good luck.

Hey, check out: http://www.madeinthephilippines.com/hermesalegre/ http://hsa.brown.edu/~maicar/NYMPHS.html http://hsa.brown.edu/~maicar/000Free/000NYMPHS/source/14.html http://www.tanglewave.com/nymphs.html http://www.nymphart.com/ There’s always Playboy magazine as well, Phil. — Curt 2 tattoos, 2 rings… and a bunch o’ search engines!

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Looking for Evil Colorful Nymphs Flash in the net.. Anyone have some ideas ? Thanks… Phil..

Try a search for Dave Bolt, he may do what you are looking for…. TQ

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"Help, I’ve scribbled and I can’t put my little golfer’s pencil down!" I scribbled:

[snip] Search for Boris Vallejo and Julie Bell.   Here’s one link: http://www.imaginistix.com/searchprocess.cfm — Curt (Okay, that’s it for Phil.  No more.  I promise.)

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Try a search for Dave Bolt, he may do what you are looking for….

Yeah, http://www.artspace.com/ – Bollt has some *really* cool dark/wicked faeries and nymphs etc. GOOD stuff. I think I own all of his stuff, well, except the set of "butterflys and moths" or whatever that is. All his mythical/fantasy stuff is top notch, and great "sellers" at the shop. Cat — — oO$8$Oo.,oo,.oO$$88$Oo 8$:`   .8$$8.  ’;8$’ 8$.   ,8$  $8,  :8$ `8$$..8$o..o$8..;8$ http://www.catbones.com/

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You’re right  - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy.

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Still, -32 C is 32 degrees _below_ the freezing point of water. The only thing hatching at temperatures like that are icecubes? Herman, wondering if America is really _that_ different from Europe You’re right  - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy.

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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Yes, Herman!  Things are that different here in America.  We had a lovely *icecube* hatch last year on Upper Creek.  While the damn things are somewhat difficult to tie on a hook. The trout just love the different flavors, when you mix in a little KOOL-AID. — Opie  **Panhandling for a better tomorrow!**

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Still, -32 C is 32 degrees _below_ the freezing point of water. The only thing hatching at temperatures like that are icecubes? Herman, wondering if America is really _that_ different from Europe You’re right  - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy. — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly?

Jeez, your supposed to be an engineer or computer geek or something – -40C is about -40F, it’s the point where the two systems meet. Having been in Winterpeg in the middle of January more than once and having lived in Ottawa, I’ll take the ‘Peg. Peter

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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now.

-41 C?? Well in Fahrenheit that must be nearly… Lesse F = 9/5C + 32… That means -41C is minus fort–no wait, that can’t be right!! <g –Steve (pardon the math joke)

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Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F.  You sure your thermometer is working correctly?

*Something’s* not working correctly, that’s for sure. HINT: Did you use a UNIX-based calculator to come up with that answer, Dave? –Steve

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Jeez, your supposed to be an engineer or computer geek or something – -40C is about -40F, it’s the point where the two systems meet.

There are other aspects to 2nd childhoods than fast cars… <g — Charlie…

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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F. You sure your thermometer is working correctly? Jeez, your supposed to be an engineer or computer geek or something –

A DEMOCRATIC engineer or computer geek or something – I’ll bet he stuffs his turkey through the neck (do with that what you will) <G. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –40C is about -40F, it’s the point where the two systems meet.

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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Sigh

Excuse my ignorance: what’s the Tricos? Chris Always willing to learn.

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Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F.  You sure your thermometer is working correctly? *Something’s* not working correctly, that’s for sure. HINT: Did you use a UNIX-based calculator to come up with that answer, Dave? –Steve

Yikes – did I post that? To the Windows Calculator with 9/5C+32  and – ooops – there’s where I lost it, I never added the 32…Oh well… Goes to show that posting after drinking your way through "The Big Book Of Wine At That Really Expensive Restaurant" could be hazardous to your dignity. /daytripper (recovering slowly…)

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Does it matter at that point?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F.  You sure your thermometer is working correctly?

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Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Sigh Excuse my ignorance: what’s the Tricos? Chris Always willing to learn.

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Dignity?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F.  You sure your thermometer is working correctly? *Something’s* not working correctly, that’s for sure. HINT: Did you use a UNIX-based calculator to come up with that answer, Dave? –Steve Yikes – did I post that? To the Windows Calculator with 9/5C+32  and – ooops – there’s where I lost it, I never added the 32…Oh well… Goes to show that posting after drinking your way through "The Big Book Of Wine At That Really Expensive Restaurant" could be hazardous to your dignity. /daytripper (recovering slowly…)

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Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul

    i thought they were a type of diptera.  or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.

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Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul    i thought they were a type of diptera.  or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.

    wait, no; i meant "diptheria". wayno, just plain weak – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I thought diphtheria is a disease. Diptera is the true fly family of which midges are a member. Tricorythodes is a genus of mayfly (Ephemeroptera).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul    i thought they were a type of diptera.  or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.     wait, no; i meant "diptheria". wayno, just plain weak

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"Brian D. Nelson" wrote I thought diphtheria is a disease. Diptera is the true fly family of which midges are a member. Tricorythodes is a genus of mayfly (Ephemeroptera).

Diphtheria is a disease, just like flyfishing. Ernie

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Diphtheria is a disease, just like flyfishing. Ernie

Then I hope I don’t catch it (the diphtheria, that is) because, like flyfishing, there is no cure (except to go fishing, of course!). — Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

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Diptera = two wings. Usually the critters that bite, or if not look too much like those not to swat them. Grammatical codswallop, but I guess you get the point. Herman Shit, I think I inhaled.. Tricos are a little tiny mayfly. About a number 26. I tie them on a #24 hook but only dress the front half of the shank. Paul     i thought they were a type of diptera.  or is that "diphteria"? wayno, a little weak on the entomology.

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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Herman,   The trico is closely related to a British insect called the Treacle (look up the taxonomy, but as you can tell by the name, they are closely related).  Though both are often mentioned in Winter settings, but at -40 Centigrade or Fahrenheit, they bear a striking similarity, i.e. they don’t move a whole bunch.              Frank – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes, Herman!  Things are that different here in America.  We had a lovely *icecube* hatch last year on Upper Creek.  While the damn things are somewhat difficult to tie on a hook. The trout just love the different flavors, when you mix in a little KOOL-AID. — Opie  **Panhandling for a better tomorrow!** Still, -32 C is 32 degrees _below_ the freezing point of water. The only thing hatching at temperatures like that are icecubes? Herman, wondering if America is really _that_ different from Europe You’re right  - I gave the thing a smack and it’s only -32 C! I’m strippin’ down! I’m in the ‘Peg – Ottawa is tropical in comparison Before you buy. — Cheers, Herman Herman Nijland Daytime webmaster Lifetime flyfisher

Before you buy.

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That’s my kind of insect.. I don’t move much at -40 C either. Herman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Herman,   The trico is closely related to a British insect called the Treacle (look up the taxonomy, but as you can tell by the name, they are closely related).  Though both are often mentioned in Winter settings, but at -40 Centigrade or Fahrenheit, they bear a striking similarity, i.e. they don’t move a whole bunch.              Frank

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but here in Montana, Tricos hatch in August, not wintertime. Fill me in on the Treacle. I’ve never heard of it and cannot tell by the name that they are closely related (other than the "Tr").

Herman,   The trico is closely related to a British insect called the Treacle (look up the taxonomy, but as you can tell by the name, they are closely related).  Though both are often mentioned in Winter settings, but at -40 Centigrade or Fahrenheit, they bear a striking similarity, i.e. they don’t move a whole bunch.              Frank

– Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

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That’s my kind of insect.. I don’t move much at -40 C either.

I experienced -40 one time…actually it was -44 F.  At that temperature you had BETTER keep moving!  Trust me on this one.       Wolfgang digging out from under 13" of new snow this morning

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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now. Sigh Before you buy.

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Just checked the thermometer and its -41 C. The Tricos should be coming off any day now.

Ottawa can get pretty cold indeed, but -41C is like -70F.  You sure your thermometer is working correctly?

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ya, in n.w montana there are hangers around for rent.–60 a month for a 3 sided no door-100 for a door and dirt floor–200 concrete floor ,paved runway, electricity free. cheaper in some smaller areas. 500 a month for a 2 bedroom house or 80,000 to buy. all kinds of real backcountry strips, wilderness and forest service. look at the great falls sectional. within an hour you are in real wilderness with great fishing, camping ,hunting on the strips. northern idaho and n.w. montana are hard to beat. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there any anywhere in the West, like Wyoming, CA, NV, MT, ID?  I’m in the East and ready to go west.  Would you e-mail me if you don’t want to post in the group. Airports and hangar space are endangered species here in the East but get no protection.  My trusty ol’ taildragger and I are ready to go back out west where I can fly a little while I finish a homebuilt bushplane. I’m pushing 60 and need to hurry. Before you buy.

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I have 20+ year rights to one spot in an excellent community hanger ($15,000) as well as an individual hanger ($25,500) at Shelby, NC (EHO).  Email for detail if serious.  You don’t have to go West only to Western North Carolina. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there any anywhere in the West, like Wyoming, CA, NV, MT, ID?  I’m in the East and ready to go west.  Would you e-mail me if you don’t want to post in the group. Airports and hangar space are endangered species here in the East but get no protection.  My trusty ol’ taildragger and I are ready to go back out west where I can fly a little while I finish a homebuilt bushplane. I’m pushing 60 and need to hurry. Before you buy.

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  The individual hanger is no longer available.    Jerry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have 20+ year rights to one spot in an excellent community hanger ($15,000) as well as an individual hanger ($25,500) at Shelby, NC (EHO).  Email for detail if serious.  You don’t have to go West only to Western North Carolina. Is there any anywhere in the West, like Wyoming, CA, NV, MT, ID?  I’m in the East and ready to go west.  Would you e-mail me if you don’t want to post in the group. Airports and hangar space are endangered species here in the East but get no protection.  My trusty ol’ taildragger and I are ready to go back out west where I can fly a little while I finish a homebuilt bushplane. I’m pushing 60 and need to hurry. Before you buy.

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Is there any anywhere in the West, like Wyoming, CA, NV, MT, ID?  I’m in the East and ready to go west.  Would you e-mail me if you don’t want to post in the group. Airports and hangar space are endangered species here in the East but get no protection.  My trusty ol’ taildragger and I are ready to go back out west where I can fly a little while I finish a homebuilt bushplane. I’m pushing 60 and need to hurry. Before you buy.

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James (???) Seriously?  OK.  Right now, at RSL (Russell, Kansas) I know of one NEW T-Hangar (Erect-A-Tube) that was built this spring for sale, in a group of 8 I believe, with power, concrete, bi-fold doors, concrete ramp.  The deal was, the people bought the hangars (materials and concrete price), city erected them and poured the concrete.  IIRC, one can be yours for right at $10K.  The city wouldn’t start the project before they were ALL sold, so a local vet that wanted one for his 180 Cherokee bought two that finished them up. Alternatively, if you want to build your own, you’re welcome to lease the property on the field to build on for long term (99 years IIRC) and build whatever you like, as long as you put an airplane in it.  Housing is dirt cheap with the farm economy in the toilet and most of the Oil guys just barely getting by right now.  Expect to pay 30% or less for a home around here than you would for an equivalent one in any metro area or anywhere back east. RSL is not unique.  There are lots of places that have similar situations. Look for small towns that are not served by commuters, but with nice airports, that are looking for, and in fact even actively courting, new planes to come in. BTW-There is an EAA Chapter at RSL and several homebuilts there now. I personally pay a total of $75/month for a 50X30 Brick T-hangar with an office and power (It’s an end T and the office is the dead space.)  In short, there are hangars and airports in the Midwest anyway, that are actively seeking your airplane. Happy hunting. — John Stricker "I didn’t spend all these years getting to the top of the food chain just to be a vegetarian" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there any anywhere in the West, like Wyoming, CA, NV, MT, ID?  I’m in the East and ready to go west.  Would you e-mail me if you don’t want to post in the group. Airports and hangar space are endangered species here in the East but get no protection.  My trusty ol’ taildragger and I are ready to go back out west where I can fly a little while I finish a homebuilt bushplane. I’m pushing 60 and need to hurry. Before you buy.

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Actually, it will work just fine.  If you are having trouble getting a big, bushy dry out there with a bow/arrow cast, try building up a leader that is quite heavy through the butt and mid sections, dropping off to a fairly long tippet of light material.  The leader will unroll just like the fly line, and the tippet will pile.  Size the leader to give you the kind of distance you want. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet. Howdy Vern, Get mad if you want, but an ultralight spinning outfit would be ideal, swing it up under there with a couple of splitshot…I keep an ultralight reel spooled with 4# stren in my vest for just this occasion and yes those are Pautzkee stains on my vest. I can try this.  However, I don’t think it will work with a dry fly.  I’m first going to try the Bow and Arrow cast. Vern

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[short casting snipped] Since everyone here is doing the b&a, somebody has to be the asshole and be different.  My turn.  The b&a will work of course, but there are alternatives.  One method I use with slow rods; pickup as if doing a conventional cast but begin the forward cast while the fly is still in front of you.  It takes a smooth, low power stroke, but it works. Peter

        this is worth a try:  if you can face the center of the creek, while standing, or squatting, at the left bank, allow your line to drift downstream the same length necessary to reach your target. then, when the line is at its greatest "stretch", just fire a single forward cast with your rod parallel with the stream surface. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Vern; Get in the water upstream of the spot and shake out enough lose line to drift your fly downstream to the fish John Before you buy.

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Otherwise Fishless in Kansas

You’re probably going to need to find some farm ponds or get a boat (or a float tube) to do any fly fishing around there. Can be done, though. — Charlie…

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get the machete out of the truck and clear out your backcast then go and make some clearance on the other side down a few beers and take an nap to wait for the fish to calm down then make your regular cast to the fish. take less time than perfecting the b&a cast – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I also need help casting to that "G" spot.  You know, that GREAT spot.  Let me described the location.  I can see the spot about 15 feet away if I stand with vegetation behind me, to the left of me, and to the right of me.  I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet.  Additionally, it’s on a small body of water that doesn’t seam to have any real service current to speak of.  So, floating the fly under the overhang is not an option. I know there are fish under the overhang.  Sometimes I can see them surfacing.  I just can’t get my fly where I want it.  WHAT KIND OF CAST CAN I DO TO

GET IT A good friend taught me how to fish such a place with out the b&a cast. Wayno has the right idea. Especially at 15 feet, let line drift down, pick up the line and begin a back cast to where the target is. Don’t forward cast, let the fly drop on the backcast to the spot. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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Vern, Bow and Arrow Cast!!! Joe Humphries demonstrates it in his small stream tactics video. However…please note: It is not pleasant to grasp the hook at the bend, pull back and release only to find the hook imbedded in your thumb as the rod is still reverberating in your other hand. It hurts like hell and worse, it puts all the fish down in three counties as you’re cussin’ up a storm. As Tom mentions, pinch the flyline at the leader junction, pull back and release. Matt & I use this technique quite a bit up here…in fact, it is a variation of the looping flyline technique of the b&a that Humphries demonstrates. Just be sure to keep the leader/tippet/fly in front of you or else as you release it you could be hooked in a worse place then your thumb. Always wear glasses ..trust me on this one. You can also have a leader/tippet combo as long as you like…a good b&a technique will turn it over. You can also increase length just by pinching further up the flyline (thus increasing the amount of "dead" line to be energized) and when you become really proficient at it (Matt has it mastered) you can actually b&a a cast as the line is still on the water as it is drifting back to you. Hope this helps, Walt — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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everyone else has properly suggested the bow & arrow cast… me, i’d simply find a taller Clarence… jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet. Vern

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[short casting snipped] Since everyone here is doing the b&a, somebody has to be the asshole and be different.  My turn.  The b&a will work of course, but there are alternatives.  One method I use with slow rods; pickup as if doing a conventional cast but begin the forward cast while the fly is still in front of you.  It takes a smooth, low power stroke, but it works. Peter

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I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet. Howdy Vern, Get mad if you want, but an ultralight spinning outfit would be ideal, swing it up under there with a couple of splitshot…I keep an ultralight reel spooled with 4# stren in my vest for just this occasion and yes those are Pautzkee stains on my vest.

I can try this.  However, I don’t think it will work with a dry fly.  I’m first going to try the Bow and Arrow cast. Vern

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  I could use a little help.  Well, I do need psychological help, but that’s not what I’m talking about today.  I also need help casting to that "G" spot.  You know, that GREAT spot.  Let me described the location.  I can see the spot about 15 feet away if I stand with vegetation behind me, to the left of me, and to the right of me.  I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet.  Additionally, it’s on a small body of water that doesn’t seam to have any real service current to speak of.  So, floating the fly under the overhang is not an option.  I know there are fish under the overhang.  Sometimes I can see them surfacing.  I just can’t get my fly where I want it.  WHAT KIND OF CAST CAN I DO TO GET IT THERE? Vern

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I guess the reason Jack posted this four times is because there are four fingers you should watch. Ernie Harrison Have you tried a Blood Knot Machine?  http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Use the bow and arrow cast. A good article appeared in Flyfisher several months ago describing how it is done. You basically grab the fly at the hook bend, hold the line tight with your casting hand, and pull the fly to put a bend in the rod. Let go of the fly and let the rod shoot the fly to the target. I would suggest using barbless hooks just in case. With practice, reasonable distance can be obtained. Good luck and watch your fingers. Jack in Tenn.

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Walt Winter showed me a variation if the bow and arrow cast, used with a 5-6 foot leader/tippet.  You grasp the line at the junction of the line/leader, load the rod and release.  The difference between this and other variations (like Joe Humphreys) is that you can get a longer piece of line out with Walt’s method. It’s absolutely deadly. Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC "If you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes." – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <SNIP  A bow and arrow cast will work at that range.  Grasp your fly firmly between your thumb and forefinger of your non-rod hand. Tension your rod by bending it away from you with your rod hand. Aim like you would with a slingshot, and just let go.  If you practice a little at this at home before you go fishing you can get pretty accurate, TL MC

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<snip bow and arrow cast.

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Use the bow and arrow cast. A good article appeared in Flyfisher several months ago describing how it is done. You basically grab the fly at the hook bend, hold the line tight with your casting hand, and pull the fly to put a bend in the rod. Let go of the fly and let the rod shoot the fly to the target. I would suggest using barbless hooks just in case. With practice, reasonable distance can be obtained. Good luck and watch your fingers. Jack in Tenn.

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<SNIP  A bow and arrow cast will work at that range.  Grasp your fly firmly between your thumb and forefinger of your non-rod hand. Tension your rod by bending it away from you with your rod hand. Aim like you would with a slingshot, and just let go.  If you practice a little at this at home before you go fishing you can get pretty accurate, TL MC

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I can’t do any normal cast due to all the vegetation.  However, I also can’t do a role cast due to the spot being under an overhang.  The Clarence is about 2 feet.

Howdy Vern, Get mad if you want, but an ultralight spinning outfit would be ideal, swing it up under there with a couple of splitshot…I keep an ultralight reel spooled with 4# stren in my vest for just this occasion and yes those are Pautzkee stains on my vest. But, if you need to prove a point with the flyrod…a bow and arrow cast comes to mind as does the use of a 10′-er and the same general dapping principle. Your pal, — TimW

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I’m just wondering why no one recommended the BOW AND ARROW CAST…

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WHAT KIND OF CAST CAN I DO TO GET IT THERE?

Bow and arrow cast. — Charlie…

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I’ve seen plenty of days when it wasn’t running.  To see the difference, visit the following URLs:         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/aftermath.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/River_Pics/Zoar3.jpg Not shot from the same POV, but you can see the large square rock that the paddlers are standing on in the first photo also in the second one, and note the difference.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! I remember my friend Gabe (who is a crabapple guide) telling me about how bill had pinned a raft on that rock below the gap the day before. I remember hearing of pictures, but never saw them…This is a riot! I am gonna send this to every crab apple guide I know Chris

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These are SCHEDULED releases, dates on which there will definitely be water (absent low water, in which case the cancelled releases will be made up the following year, as is the case with 2 releases on the Dryway this year). Although there are often **unscheduled** releases many other days, they are not certain and may not happen if US generating choses not to generate at Fife Brook on those days.

Well, I ran fife brook 3-4 days a week this past summer, and I can’t remember a single day this past summer that they didn’t release. True…sometimes they don’t release, but it is extremely rare. There is a good 95% chance there will be water, and if there isn’t going to be…you’ll know because you have to call to find out discharge anyway Chris

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I’ve seen plenty of days when it wasn’t running.  To see the difference, visit the following URLs:         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/aftermath.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/River_Pics/Zoar3.jpg Not shot from the same POV, but you can see the large square rock that the paddlers are standing on in the first photo also in the second one, and note the difference. HAHAHAHAHAHA! I remember my friend Gabe (who is a crabapple guide) telling me about how bill had pinned a raft on that rock below the gap the day before. I remember hearing of pictures, but never saw them…This is a riot! I am gonna send this to every crab apple guide I know

Twasn’t Bill, it was Dirk.  It happened last October, so I’m not sure if it’s the same incident.  The whole sequence of events is:         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/sofarsogood.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/unexpectedbump.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/overtheside.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/uhoh.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/aftermath.jpg Every raft guide needs fifteen minutes of fame.  The real lucky ones get fifteen minutes of fame and a rock named after them — ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         "They write books that contradict the rocks…"

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fife Brook April 10-11, 14-18, 21-23, 28-30 May 1-2, 8-9, 13-16, 20-23, 27-30 June 10-13, 17, 19-20, 23-27 July 3, 7-11, 17-18, 21-25, 28-31 August 1, 4-8, 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 Sept. 1-5, 8-12, 18-19, 22-24 Oct. 2-3, 6-10, 13-17, 20-22 Total number of releases: 106 don’t listen to these dates…I don’t know where US generating pulled these from. Fife brook runs every single day…with a flow of at least 700 cfs.

I’ve seen plenty of days when it wasn’t running.  To see the difference, visit the following URLs:         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/Rafting/aftermath.jpg         http://www.shore.net/~malmros/Images/Paddling/River_Pics/Zoar3.jpg Not shot from the same POV, but you can see the large square rock that the paddlers are standing on in the first photo also in the second one, and note the difference.   — ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         "They write books that contradict the rocks…"

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These are SCHEDULED releases, dates on which there will definitely be water (absent low water, in which case the cancelled releases will be made up the following year, as is the case with 2 releases on the Dryway this year). Although there are often **unscheduled** releases many other days, they are not certain and may not happen if US generating choses not to generate at Fife Brook on those days. -Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fife Brook April 10-11, 14-18, 21-23, 28-30 May 1-2, 8-9, 13-16, 20-23, 27-30 June 10-13, 17, 19-20, 23-27 July 3, 7-11, 17-18, 21-25, 28-31 August 1, 4-8, 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 Sept. 1-5, 8-12, 18-19, 22-24 Oct. 2-3, 6-10, 13-17, 20-22 Total number of releases: 106 don’t listen to these dates…I don’t know where US generating pulled these from. Fife brook runs every single day…with a flow of at least 700 cfs. The river runs even this time of year. call 1-888-flo-fone for times and discharge Chris

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US Generating Company publishes these dates because they are the ONLY scheduled releases for Fife Brook in 1999.  It’s true that they often release on unscheduled days when there is power demand, especially this time of year.  But don’t expect there to be many unscheduled releases mid-summer unless we have a wet summer.  It certainly does not run every day in the summer.  They usually update the flo-fone (888-356-3663) around 5pm for the next day, but they are not always consistent about it in the winter. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fife Brook April 10-11, 14-18, 21-23, 28-30 May 1-2, 8-9, 13-16, 20-23, 27-30 June 10-13, 17, 19-20, 23-27 July 3, 7-11, 17-18, 21-25, 28-31 August 1, 4-8, 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 Sept. 1-5, 8-12, 18-19, 22-24 Oct. 2-3, 6-10, 13-17, 20-22 Total number of releases: 106 don’t listen to these dates…I don’t know where US generating pulled these from. Fife brook runs every single day…with a flow of at least 700 cfs. The river runs even this time of year. call 1-888-flo-fone for times and discharge Chris

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kathy,         those are last years dates, ya gotta move them all back a day.    black: july 24   beaver sept. 4-5 i think moose oct.16 deerfield july 31  hope that helps and hope to see ya ’s there. in anticipation for precipitation!

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Oh um   yeah      that’s what I meant    thanks for waking me up and bringing me forward with time. for a Moose River virtual tour,  check out www.dreamscape.com/kkemp/moose/index.htm Kathy

kathy,         those are last years dates, ya gotta move them all back a day.    black: july 24   beaver sept. 4-5 i think moose oct.16 deerfield july 31 hope that helps and hope to see ya ’s there. in anticipation for precipitation!

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Full schedules will be posted by the end of the week to the American Whitewater and NOWR web sites.  www.awa.org and www.nowr.org.  Sorry for the delay. Jayne Abbot, Events Manager American Whitewater/NOWR

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Fife Brook April 10-11, 14-18, 21-23, 28-30 May 1-2, 8-9, 13-16, 20-23, 27-30 June 10-13, 17, 19-20, 23-27 July 3, 7-11, 17-18, 21-25, 28-31 August 1, 4-8, 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 Sept. 1-5, 8-12, 18-19, 22-24 Oct. 2-3, 6-10, 13-17, 20-22 Total number of releases: 106

don’t listen to these dates…I don’t know where US generating pulled these from. Fife brook runs every single day…with a flow of at least 700 cfs. The river runs even this time of year. call 1-888-flo-fone for times and discharge Chris

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New England FLOW and USGenerating 1999 Deerfield River Whitewater Schedule Fife Brook April 10-11, 14-18, 21-23, 28-30 May 1-2, 8-9, 13-16, 20-23, 27-30 June 10-13, 17, 19-20, 23-27 July 3, 7-11, 17-18, 21-25, 28-31 August 1, 4-8, 12-15, 19-22, 26-29 Sept. 1-5, 8-12, 18-19, 22-24 Oct. 2-3, 6-10, 13-17, 20-22 Total number of releases: 106 Monroe Bridge May 23, 29, 30 June 5, 6, 13, 18 (Fri.), 20, 25 (Fri.), 26 July 3, 4, 10, 11, 16 (Fri.), 17, 24, 30 (Fri.), 31 August 1, 6 (Fri.), 7, 14, 15, 20 (Fri.), 21, 28, 29 Sept. 4, 11, 12, 19 Oct. 9, 10 Total number of releases: 34 Notes: The May 23 and July 3 dates on Monroe Bridge are make-up days for the two lost days in September, 1998. Special Events: One Fly Fishing Tournament, June 5-6 – minimum flow in Fife Brook only. Lions Club Canoe Race, June 26 – Fife 9 a.m.- 1 p.m. release Riverfest, July 30-31-Aug. 1.

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(I have the following dates for the Bloomington releases: 4/17, 18; 5/1, 2, 16, 17, 29, and 30; can someone confirm these dates?)

I can and so can the Army Corps of Engineers at their Bloominton info website: http://nab71.nab-wc.usace.army.mil/projects/rand/WHITEWATER99.html – Mothra  (aka Kathy Streletzky) "Life on the newsgroup is a strange gestalt of folks who are brethern at heart the long distance trippers, and rads throwing ends, and those who ask how to start" – CubicDog

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Moose River Festival October 17 Old Forge, NY "Don’t call this a Festival River Rendezvous" September 5-7 Belfort, NY/Beaver River and I must add the: Black River Festival July 25-26 Watertown, NY ……What are the dates for the Moose (NY) Fest, Beaver (NY) Rendezvous…… Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

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Of all of these, ol’ dynamo_ratt, you must not miss the Beaver releases. — Richard Hopley, concise and to the point, as always. OC-1; Rockville, Maryland, USA, BBM; (301) 330-8265 Monocacy Canoe Club, Blue Ridge Voyageurs, Canoe Cruisers’ Ass’n, Greater Baltimore CC, Coastal Canoeists, Rhode Island Canoe/Kayak Ass’n, Carolina CC, Tennessee Scenic Rivers Ass’n, ACA, and AWA Note 1: Sometimes I just forget to type that smiley-face emoticon. Note 2: Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock’n'Roll.

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No, I’m not trying to find my pet moose and beaver a romantic tryst. Rather, I’m putting together this year’s Tripp schedule for Keel-haulers, and I need to know: What are the dates for the Moose (NY) Fest, Beaver (NY) Rendezvous, and the West River (VT), Deerfield Dryway (MA), and North Branch Potomac (Bloomington) releases? (I have the following dates for the Bloomington releases: 4/17, 18; 5/1, 2, 16, 17, 29, and 30; can someone confirm these dates?) Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

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No, I’m not trying to find my pet moose and beaver a romantic tryst. Rather, I’m putting together this year’s Tripp schedule for Keel-haulers, and I need to know: What are the dates for the Moose (NY) Fest, Beaver (NY) Rendezvous, and the West River (VT), Deerfield Dryway (MA), and North Branch Potomac (Bloomington) releases? (I have the following dates for the Bloomington releases: 4/17, 18; 5/1, 2, 16, 17, 29, and 30; can someone confirm these dates?) Enquiring Minds Want To Know!

Zoar Outdoor posted the Deerfield dates on their website (www.zoaroutdoor.com).  Make sure you look at the dryway dates and don’t confuse them with Fife Brook — there are a LOT more Fife Brook dates! — ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::         "They write books that contradict the rocks…"

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Hi I was wondering if any person knows any flats in Cozumel for bones done on a budget?? Also if Isla Mujeres has any wadable flats nearby? Thanks alot Sam I am

Hi, You can catch bones on the north end of Cozumel any time of the year. There are lots of guides on the island. I have not heard of anyone driving there yet as the roads don’t go there. Get a guide for a half day trip in the morning as that is the best fishing anyway. If you shop around you might get a guide for $150/half-day. I was out on Isla Mujeres, but didn’t see any flats. I don’t know about any guides there, but it has a big lagoon. We have been fishing a great lagoon system about an hour north of Cancun with schools of small tarpon from 5 to 30 pounds in clear shallow water. Guides can pick you up at 5am at your hotel in Cancun and take you out for the day. Call Fred at Rod & Reel Adventures to book any of these guides. 800/356-6982 Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Hi I was wondering if any person knows any flats in Cozumel for bones done on a budget?? Also if Isla Mujeres has any wadable flats nearby? Thanks alot Sam I am

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There are three areas at the north end of Cozumel Island. There are lots of bonefish, although not trophy size. At least I haven’t caught one. They are large enough to make your reel sing and make you wonder if you have enough backing. I have heard that you can drive there but I don’t know for sure. I don’t have the name of the guide I use. You can ask around at the marina.

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Hi All, I was wondering about the quality of fishing on a couple of lesser known rivers in BC. One is Cayoose Creek which runs east out of Duffy Lake on the Pemberton-Lillooet road? The other is Gerrard Creek which runs out of Trout lake in the Kootneys. Cayoose is close enough for some nice weekend work but I am thinking about buying some property right by Gerrard. Thanks in advance, Kent Signature!?! Damn it Jim, I’m a lurker not a liternary agent!!

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Hi All, I was wondering about the quality of fishing on a couple of lesser known rivers in BC. One is Cayoose Creek which runs east out of Duffy Lake on the Pemberton-Lillooet road?

it is reported to have a modest population of small rainbows and a small number of steelhead in the Spring. The other is Gerrard Creek which runs out of Trout lake in the Kootneys.

closed to fishing as this is (surprisingly) the spawning and nursery grounds for the Gerrard Rainbow of Kootenay and Trout Lakes. Cayoose is close enough for some nice weekend work but I am thinking about buying some property right by Gerrard. Thanks in advance, Kent Signature!?! Damn it Jim, I’m a lurker not a liternary agent!!

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I am going to be in the Santa Fe, Las Vegas areas for a few days in July and would like to spend a day on a trout stream while I’m there. I would appreciate very much any recommendations anyone would be willing to share regarding places as well as fly patterns. Thanks.

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I am going to be in the Santa Fe, Las Vegas areas for a few days in July and would like to spend a day on a trout stream while I’m there. I would appreciate very much any recommendations anyone would be willing to share regarding places as well as fly patterns. Thanks.

Jerry, the pecos river is pretty good in july esp if you don’t mind hiking into the pecos wilderness 4-5 miles(beattys cabin area). It is also decent fishing just outside of the wildeness. Terrestrials, elk hair caddis, royal wulffs + zug bugs, prince nymphs have worked well for me. we had a poor snow pack this year, so water levels will be lower than normal. good fishing zane rakes

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Have some new fly fishing gear and new to the sport.  Planning to go out on my first outing to the Deerfield in western Mass this weekend.  If any out there know of a good spot to start I’d appreciate the info.  Have enjoyed following this newgroup for some time.  Now I guess it’s time to take the first of many enjoyable steps. Thanks in advance for any info. Claude

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If you are going out tothe deerfield you better find out how the water level is water has been running real high this year makes for real hard fishing.

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Have some new fly fishing gear and new to the sport.  Planning to go out on my first outing to the Deerfield in western Mass this weekend.  If any out there know of a good spot to start I’d appreciate the info.  Have enjoyed following this newgroup for some time.  Now I guess it’s time to take the first of many enjoyable steps. Thanks in advance for any info. Claude

From all reports that I’ve heard, the Deerfield is basically not even fishable yet, due to high fast water conditions. — David T. Blizard CGI Animator Post Perfect inc. 220E 42nd St New York NY 10017 (W) 212 972 3400 X5394 http://www.users.interport.net/~daveb "Pork, the other white meat!"

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Have some new fly fishing gear and new to the sport.  Planning to go out on my first outing to the Deerfield in western Mass this weekend.  If any out there know of a good spot to start I’d appreciate the info.  Have enjoyed following this newgroup for some time.  Now I guess it’s time to take the first of many enjoyable steps. Claude

I am going to the deerfield also this weekend. I lived in a little town called Sunderland which, is a couple of miles from south deerfield (where Yankee Candle is). I fished quite a bit there from the route 91 bridge downstream for a couple miles. The water is a little slower moving but, you can find some great runs. Try right at the rt 91 bridge. There are a few likely spots. Hopefully the water will be down this weekend. I was there a couple of weeks ago and it was chocolate milk ! good luck.

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