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First of all, my apologies to those who did not get in this year, I wish we could sign up everybody that wants to swap. Now, I tried sending out this list via private email but 2 keep bouncing back, John Russell, I need your correct email address, and an unnamed from aol keeps bouncing.  Aol, in their own inimitable stye won’t say who it is. (!)  Anyway, here it is for better or worse. COPY BEGINS HERE…… Well folks, this will be the final tally on tyers unless someone else decides to drop out. Because of a screw-up on my part, we have wound up with 41 instead of "just" 40.  I trust this will not cause a problem for anyone. PLEASE, when you communicate with me, do it in private e-mail and just use FLY SWAP  in the subject line.  Depending on roff/rofft for communication has caused some problems for me in getting the info in a timely manner.  OK, I’m hitting the road in a few minutes and won’t be available to return messages until sometime this coming Saturday.  Have fun tying and for those who have yet to name your fly, no big deal, but it would be nice if you could remember to send me the name of your pattern when you decide what to tie. 2.   Randy Kane…….TBA 3.   Hans van der Stroom…….TBA 4.   Walter Huff……Deer Hair Bug 5.   Dave Martel…..(LaFontaine Emergent Sparkle Caddis) 7.   John Russell…….(Gold Butt Bear) 9.   Peter Collin……Mark’s Carpet Fly 10.  Lou Teletski…..Epoxyhead Baitfish 11.  Tim Lysyk……. Olive Mountain Midge 14.  Brian Nelson…….TBA 15.  Paul Goodwin……TBA 16.  Sam Stump…….Zug Bug 18.  John Whitely…….TBD 19.  John Brandt…..Royal Coachman Marabou Streamer 20.  Ronald Ausman……TBD 24.  Jamie Heim…….Canadian Killer 28.  Eugene Knapik…… Usual 29.  Jeff Gooldy….Altmar Sunrise 30.  Bob Beardall……TBD 31.  Chris Fanning…….Clouser Tube Fly 34.  Bob Weinberger…….Olive and Starling soft hackle 35.  Michael Hewitt…….Matuka type fly 36.  Charlie Wilson……TBD 38.  Wayne Hart…..TBD 39.  Willi Loehmann….TBD 40.  Warren Findley…..TBD 41.  Herman Nijland….TBD Your Benevolent Old Gray Swapmeister Frank Church in Elkhart, IN bassbugr AT yahoo dot com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -}<((((o ~~~ }<((((o ~~~ }<((((o ~~~ }<(((o

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – First of all, my apologies to those who did not get in this year, I wish we could sign up everybody that wants to swap. Now, I tried sending out this list via private email but 2 keep bouncing back, John Russell, I need your correct email address, and an unnamed from aol keeps bouncing.  Aol, in their own inimitable stye won’t say who it is. (!)  Anyway, here it is for better or worse. COPY BEGINS HERE…… Well folks, this will be the final tally on tyers unless someone else decides to drop out. Because of a screw-up on my part, we have wound up with 41 instead of "just" 40.  I trust this will not cause a problem for anyone. PLEASE, when you communicate with me, do it in private e-mail and just use FLY SWAP  in the subject line.  Depending on roff/rofft for communication has caused some problems for me in getting the info in a timely manner.  OK, I’m hitting the road in a few minutes and won’t be available to return messages until sometime this coming Saturday.  Have fun tying and for those who have yet to name your fly, no big deal, but it would be nice if you could remember to send me the name of your pattern when you decide what to tie. 2.   Randy Kane…….TBA 3.   Hans van der Stroom…….TBA 4.   Walter Huff……Deer Hair Bug 5.   Dave Martel…..(LaFontaine Emergent Sparkle Caddis) 7.   John Russell…….(Gold Butt Bear) 9.   Peter Collin……Mark’s Carpet Fly 10.  Lou Teletski…..Epoxyhead Baitfish 11.  Tim Lysyk……. Olive Mountain Midge 14.  Brian Nelson…….TBA 15.  Paul Goodwin……TBA 16.  Sam Stump…….Zug Bug 18.  John Whitely…….TBD 19.  John Brandt…..Royal Coachman Marabou Streamer 20.  Ronald Ausman……TBD 24.  Jamie Heim…….Canadian Killer 28.  Eugene Knapik…… Usual 29.  Jeff Gooldy….Altmar Sunrise 30.  Bob Beardall……TBD 31.  Chris Fanning…….Clouser Tube Fly 34.  Bob Weinberger…….Olive and Starling soft hackle 35.  Michael Hewitt…….Matuka type fly 36.  Charlie Wilson……TBD 38.  Wayne Hart…..TBD 39.  Willi Loehmann….TBD 40.  Warren Findley…..TBD 41.  Herman Nijland….TBD 42.  George Gehrke ….The Bigot Special Your Benevolent Old Gray Swapmeister Frank Church in Elkhart, IN bassbugr AT yahoo dot com }<((((o ~~~ }<((((o ~~~ }<((((o ~~~ }<(((o

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42.  George Gehrke ….The Bigot Special

george, you can’t help spewing yer vitriolic shit everywhere, can ya? you are one sad example of a homo sapien….. oneday soon, i’m convinced you will be received warmly in hell. –waldo

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Walt?  Not true.  I don’t see how an old fart like you can continue with such nonsense?  Thing is Walt, it doesn’t take much to piss you off about ANYTHING! If you want The Bigot Special, just ask, I’ve always been tolerant of you Walt.   christ.  Lighten up man. George Gehrke To hell and back 42.  George Gehrke ….The Bigot Special george, you can’t help spewing yer vitriolic shit everywhere, can ya?

f*^# you Walt. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – –waldo

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one of these day’s i’ll learn not to respond to the friggin’ village idiot. –waldo

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<snip f*^# you Walt.

Exactly what I was talking about last week George. Same old cycle.  Show up, post a few relatively informative messages, try to act friendly, then resort to the same old insults and bombast.  Start a flame war, leave in a huff, promise to stay away for a while, then come back a day later for more.  The cycle repeats as it has since 1995. Somebody on the commercial side of flyfishing should think a bit more before making public postings in a flyfishing newsgroup, George.  Thousands of people read these messages.  You lose more potential customers every time you repeat this cycle.  You provide entertainment for your detractors, and hurt your business.  What’s the sense of that? –Stan – post followups to misc.business.marketing.clueless (gonna buy a Bud Lite for Waldo and let it sit on my car until May – freeze, thaw, heat up, repeat)

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(gonna buy a Bud Lite for Waldo and let it sit on my car until May – freeze, thaw, heat up, repeat)

jeez stan, what the hell did i ever do to you to deseve *that*? –waldo, screw-it, ya’ll can find me at the wiekert sportsmans club come may….. yuengling on draft

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jeez stan, what the hell did i ever do to you to deseve *that*? –waldo, screw-it, ya’ll can find me at the wiekert sportsmans club come may….. yuengling on draft

Winters, you are nothing more than a quibbler.  All of you carolina people are quibblers. Quibblers, quibblers, quibbler. So, their! G. Gehrke American Jet Warrior

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Your vocabulary speaks for itself on the higher plains of roff.  Did you take college courses in swearing or did you just attend North Carolina University for a week? George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – one of these day’s i’ll learn not to respond to the friggin’ village idiot. –waldo

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Thanks for the reply. I feel like a regular already. I have been lurking for a couple of years. I’m fairly new to flyfishing and was having trouble getting my post to go through. I hope I can contribute in the future. I also hope to attend a clave sometime it sounds like fun.

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I hope I can contribute in the future. I also hope to attend a clave sometime it sounds like fun.

    for my part, i hope you reach both goals.  welcome to the nuthouse. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Whoooweee and likewise yeeehaaw!  That reply posted in seconds.  We may have a winner here. His wife in El Paso – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear fellas – figgered a "sorry" test message is a good place to re-test us.

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Dear fellas – figgered a "sorry" test message is a good place to re-test us.  We’ve been having terrible troubles trying to post replies.  It appears Southwestern Bell/Pacific Bell Internet updated their hardware and software and generally rearranged the furniture without telling anyone.  Everybody’s been having trouble.  On advice from another user, we changed news servers to news.flash.net and hoping that posts will go through.  This lurking business is the pits.  Was about to use voodoo or something, sprinkle salt on the phone lines, call in an exorcist…. Please let us know how this goes. Bob & his wife in El Paso

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A real sorry would be much more sincere. <g (I had to do it for Zimbo) — Charlie…

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A real sorry would be much more sincere. <g (I had to do it for Zimbo)

And I thank you from the bottom of my dweller –Steve

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listen, newbie: you call me sorry one more time and you’re *gonna* be!         wayno, the scourge of chambana   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3. Tripper, Great story! And it’s nice to know that I’m not the only other person on ROFF who has been fishing recently, what with the "To Whom It May Concern" mega-crisis (did anyone report this to the ACLU? to the UN? to Al Gore?) to deal with and everything.

        aw, hell, steve, you aren’t about to buy that yankee bullshit, are you?  i’ve fished with him; he couldn’t throw a *rock* 90′, let alone a fly line.         and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes.         ok, i’ll come clean:  the rascal *can* fish his fly!  but the winston is still too soft!         wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Of course, hearing your casting distance figures reminds me that it’s time for another casting lesson or two (or ten). –Steve

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[snipped rock abuse]    and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes.    ok, i’ll come clean:  the rascal *can* fish his fly!  but the winston is still too soft!    wayno

Ah, another fellow flyflinger in distress… I feel your pain, too, counselor, and am more than prepared to relieve you of the cause. Send that "too soft" rod to a good home where it’ll be loved. You already have my address. /daytripper (still waitin’ on that paintin’, btw ;^)

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… Hmmm, the 7.5/3wt (3pc) we’ve both cast feels to me medium/slow; with a TT 3/4 and a Cortland Clear Creek WF3, never had a DT on it.

FWIW, the Winston recommended line for their IM6 rods is a DT. Tho I too fish my Winstons with a TT. I just picked up a Wulf long belly line and tried it with my five weight, wish I tried one sooner. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas but counting the days to the Keys Before you buy.

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Our lips never touched – no matter what you might have heard ;^) /daytripper (never gonna live that one down…)

I believe what you said was you tried to *shotgun* a cigarette with it. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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   and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes.    ok, i’ll come clean:  the rascal *can* fish his fly!  but the winston is still too soft!

Wanna trade a Sage 2wt SPL for it? — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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Thank you for the post.  I like it. —   Vern  ^^^^^^^ (o)-(o)/     "    ___ Before you buy.

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FWIW, the Winston recommended line for their IM6 rods is a DT. Tho I too fish my Winstons with a TT. I just picked up a Wulf long belly line and tried it with my five weight, wish I tried one sooner.

You’re learning, Wayne ;^)

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FWIW, the Winston recommended line for their IM6 rods is a DT. Tho I too fish my Winstons with a TT. I just picked up a Wulf long belly line and tried it with my five weight, wish I tried one sooner. You’re learning, Wayne ;^)

I never stop learning Mr Tripper, — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.

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       and besides, the only winston i have (7′ 2wt) is a beautiful thing to see, but a touch too weak in the butt for my tastes.        ok, i’ll come clean:  the rascal *can* fish his fly!  but the winston is still too soft! Wanna trade a Sage 2wt SPL for it?

        no thanks, bud; a friend of mine got rid of his sage 2wt when he couldn’t get it to load up under 20′ with a 6wt tri-taper…         just kiddin, of course; but the winston was custom made for me, has my name on the butt, and has become one of the things my two boys will fight over, one of these days. wayno

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… With the exception of my temporarily "indisposed" 7.5/2wt, every Winston I own or have cast could be categorized as having a medium action (the little 2wt is surprisingly fast). …

Hmmm, the 7.5/3wt (3pc) we’ve both cast feels to me medium/slow; with a TT 3/4 and a Cortland Clear Creek WF3, never had a DT on it. — Ken Fortenberry

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/daytripper ("Bullwinkle"? Where’d *that* come from?)

Foggy brain on my part.  Rocky used to say, "and now for something we hope you really like." or something to that effect.  Then again I remember hearing of you romancing a moose, once <g. Mu

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Hmmm, the 7.5/3wt (3pc) we’ve both cast feels to me medium/slow; with a TT 3/4 and a Cortland Clear Creek WF3, never had a DT on it.

Well, as I said, some people would feel that way. I fished your rod with the DT2F that I use on my two weight, and it cast very nicely with it – it felt "medium-fast" with that line, threw nice tight loops, and on the only river big enough to air it out a little (the Harrison) I ran out of room before I ran out of line. (Ya know, I almost asked you to sell that rod to me back then ;^) I suspect the TT3/4 would overload it, though I could be wrong. If you can find someone who has a TT2/3, you might be pleasantly surprised (that is, unless you like the slower action). Otherwise, bring it to Maine with you next fall, and you can try out a whole bunch of lines on it. /daytripper  (Or let me do it ;^)

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/daytripper ("Bullwinkle"? Where’d *that* come from?) Foggy brain on my part.  Rocky used to say, "and now for something we hope you really like." or something to that effect.

Yup – you have an excellent memory! This similar quote, however, is from the Monty Python tv show. Then again I remember hearing of you romancing a moose, once <g.

Our lips never touched – no matter what you might have heard ;^) /daytripper (never gonna live that one down…)

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Now you’ve got me dreaming.  One of the local stores has an RPL 390 blank in its discount bin.  Maybe if it’s still there after Xmas . . . Peter

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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3.

Tripper, Great story! And it’s nice to know that I’m not the only other person on ROFF who has been fishing recently, what with the "To Whom It May Concern" mega-crisis (did anyone report this to the ACLU? to the UN? to Al Gore?) to deal with and everything. Of course, hearing your casting distance figures reminds me that it’s time for another casting lesson or two (or ten). –Steve

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Daytripper:  Thanks for this thread. I have a friend who tried out my Scott G-series 3 weight at rezendevous about a month ago . He had never tried a slower action rod before and was impressed. I received an e-mail from him last week. He awaiting the arrival of his Winston 8.5 foot 3 weight rod. I just hope he enjoys it as much as you do your Winstons. Big Dale

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Daytripper:  Thanks for this thread. I have a friend who tried out my Scott G-series 3 weight at rezendevous about a month ago . He had never tried a slower action rod before and was impressed.

I’m partial to the G series rods too. I’m thinking about telling Santa about their new 8′ 3 piece 2 wt<g. — Charlie…

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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort

Thanks Bullwinkle.  BTW, I haven’t ever touched a Winston IM6 but I thought they were supposed to be moderate action rods.  Is it actually a fast rod or are you a very good caster? Mu

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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort Thanks Bullwinkle.  BTW, I haven’t ever touched a Winston IM6 but I thought they were supposed to be moderate action rods.  Is it actually a fast rod or are you a very good caster?

With the exception of my temporarily "indisposed" 7.5/2wt, every Winston I own or have cast could be categorized as having a medium action (the little 2wt is surprisingly fast). The 9/3 might even be termed medium-slow by some. But if you get in tune with your thumb on the top of the grip, you can really get their IM6 rods to zing line (I’ve often thrown the entire DT2F on my little 2 weight with surprisingly little effort when I’m really in sync with that rod). I have been flyfishing for almost 36 years now, and while I’m not going to win any casting championships, I can throw a line. But you have to have tried a Wulff Triangle Taper line to understand that if distance is the game, a TT will give you an almost unfair advantage. This is a weight forward line with a stepless front taper and no rear taper to speak of; and the running line has an unusually thin diameter and a hard surface. The result is so little guide friction or wind resistance that it just shoots like crazy, and an 80 foot cast doesn’t require a champion to achieve (90 foot line minus the length of the rod). When I let the first good cast fly with this line, I had about 60 feet of line out – and it really jerked the reel but good, such was the line speed. Surprised the heck out of me, so I just kept feeding out more line until I hit the backing. On my best casts with the little nymph on the end, I was shooting over twenty feet of line off the ground and through the guides. Very satisfying, if impractical under most circumstances. With anything more wind resistant than that nymph, I could get the line out but it didn’t have enough terminal velocity to do much more than puddle the leader at the far end of the cast. After all the above, however, in truth I prefer DT lines for their versatility and typically softer "landing" characteristic, and I’ll probably try an SA or DT3F on this rod before next spring. The WF3 and TT2/3 were my dad’s lines for one of his cane rods that I also inherited. They provide impressive results wrt distance, and I’ll keep them at the ready, but I’d rather have the DT for every day use. /daytripper ("Bullwinkle"? Where’d *that* come from?)

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Daytripper, We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond.

What part of the world are you in?  Out here in Northern CA, it seems a bit too wintry for bassin’. I love fishing small poppers, btw. Even the smallest sunfish often explode from the water with the gaudy bug firmly clenched, making more than their fair share of commotion as they splash down. Short strip, wait, short strip, wait, wiggle and wait, then WHAMMO!

I’m another popper lover.  Each winter I make up a bunch of balsa poppers and enjoy the anticipation of March. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!)

Yeah… Glad you got some fishin’ in. Wes Peterson LexCraft Data Services

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OK – YOU SUCCEEDED I am Jealous. Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3. fwiw, the DT2F definitely underlined the rod, which was to be expected, and made for too much work. The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort, although at that range the longish front taper didn’t turn over the popper-ladened leader consistently (though with a #14 Montana I could straighten the line at the same insane distance). The WF3F was quite enjoyable, loaded the rod quickly but not overly, and would deliver a small popper very nicely as far as ~70 feet before running out of line speed. So I left the WF on for the rest of the short outing, and woke up a bunch of long-eared sunnies along with a pair of foot-long large mouths. I usually fish this pond with my 9/5 but the 3-weight was a lot more fun on these li’l fellers, which put a goodly bend in the rod. I love fishing small poppers, btw. Even the smallest sunfish often explode from the water with the gaudy bug firmly clenched, making more than their fair share of commotion as they splash down. Short strip, wait, short strip, wait, wiggle and wait, then WHAMMO! Too cool! Between the fishing, the warmish weather, the heron stalking the band, and a very talkative pair of mallards cruising along, it was an entertaining few hours away from the ‘puters, which seem to be in a bad mood the last few days. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!) /daytripper (Peace, Love, Hair, Beads, Flowers, Fur Coats…and HATS!)

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i know what my problem is, two huge school assignments hanging over my head and no fishing since Mu’s visit.  Withdrawal is making me surly.

Pete, you of all people I find hard to picture as ever being surly! That Winston’s a lovely rod btw, enjoy heartily.  I bet it would be great for brookies off the wing dam.

And indeed, this is what I had in mind when I decided I "needed" this particular model. On those days that the wind isn’t blasting up river off Pondy, it should be a riot! Can you imaging hooking a 20" wild brookie and holding it with a 3 wt on that river? Yikes! Hope you catch a break and get out before the water gets solid up there, Peter… /daytripper

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Daytripper, What part of the world are you in?  Out here in Northern CA, it seems a bit too wintry for bassin’.

Central Massachusetts, Wes. Indeed, normally the bass would be snoozin’ (don’t know about the sunnies – they always seem cooperative around here if they aren’t trapped under ice ;^) But we experienced a "Blazing Inferno"  of a summer this year, and I think some ponds are just getting settled before winter creeps in. On a nice afternoon a fish or six can be still be raised with a tempting bug… Gotta get the last licks in before my mind turns to skiing. /daytripper

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We caught a nice break in the weather this early afternoon so I put on my Fall Ball cap and took my newly acquired 9/3 Winston out for a few hours of peaceful fishing on a very local bass pond. I combined the fishing with experimentation with three different lines that I had laying about, a DT2F, a WF3F, and a TT2/3. fwiw, the DT2F definitely underlined the rod, which was to be expected, and made for too much work. The TT2/3 was the monster of the three – turned this rod into a mini-howitzer; once I had the feel for the rod, the entire line could be cast with moderate effort, although at that range the longish front taper didn’t turn over the popper-ladened leader consistently (though with a #14 Montana I could straighten the line at the same insane distance). The WF3F was quite enjoyable, loaded the rod quickly but not overly, and would deliver a small popper very nicely as far as ~70 feet before running out of line speed. So I left the WF on for the rest of the short outing, and woke up a bunch of long-eared sunnies along with a pair of foot-long large mouths. I usually fish this pond with my 9/5 but the 3-weight was a lot more fun on these li’l fellers, which put a goodly bend in the rod. I love fishing small poppers, btw. Even the smallest sunfish often explode from the water with the gaudy bug firmly clenched, making more than their fair share of commotion as they splash down. Short strip, wait, short strip, wait, wiggle and wait, then WHAMMO! Too cool! Between the fishing, the warmish weather, the heron stalking the band, and a very talkative pair of mallards cruising along, it was an entertaining few hours away from the ‘puters, which seem to be in a bad mood the last few days. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!) /daytripper (Peace, Love, Hair, Beads, Flowers, Fur Coats…and HATS!)

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{ a lot of great Winston stuff snipped] Too cool! Between the fishing, the warmish weather, the heron stalking the band, and a very talkative pair of mallards cruising along, it was an entertaining few hours away from the ‘puters, which seem to be in a bad mood the last few days. Too bad it had to end so early (goddamned daylight savings time!) /daytripper (Peace, Love, Hair, Beads, Flowers, Fur Coats…and HATS!)

i know what my problem is, two huge school assignments hanging over my head and no fishing since Mu’s visit.  Withdrawal is making me surly. That Winston’s a lovely rod btw, enjoy heartily.  I bet it would be great for brookies off the wing dam. Peter

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Hi I am going to the flyfishing retailer show in Salt Lake City in mid September and want to go fishing for a couple of days. Can anyone recommend a good spot, and also a decent place to stay, not too expensive ($30 or so) Tight lines!

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The Provo River can fish well at times!!  The Green, but it is a bit of a drive. Good Luck, Forrest Forrest FlyFishingREVIEW.com Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Try the Provo river supposed to be second only to the Green in Utah

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Two weeks ago the Provo was running to high to fish very well.  I think the Green would be best.

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Get out a map. When I went to school in Provo an elephants age ago, we filled our freezer with Browns from the Spanish Fork, at the south end of Utah Valley, and in the creek off the highway that runs down into Helper and the Utah coal country. There is an "American Fork" toward the north end of the Valley, that used to be pretty good too. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two weeks ago the Provo was running to high to fish very well.  I think the Green would be best. Try the Provo river supposed to be second only to the Green in Utah

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I’ve fished the Provo River twice, in the lower tailwater section. Lots of fish, mostly nymph fishing.  Good size fish. Beautiful scenery.   The Sept. 99 issue of Fly Fisherman has a comprehensive article on the Provo.   Steve Kling

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I live in Salt Lake City, Utah and have flyfished for years if you want info email me directly Mike Holtum

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Been tying flies for a couple of years.  Here in S.C. and also in G.A. fly tying hooks are about as hard to find as hens teeth.  I like to stand in front of a wall of hooks and look at them while scratching my head.  This is half the fun of buying hooks to me.  But these damn Mustad hooks are about all anyone carries.   Do these thing rust overnight?  Or am I doing something wrong? I open my fly box after a day fishing so they can air dry, sometimes soak my flies in Scotchgard (which I am convinced is useless), and generally try to assure they are dry before storing.  But rust they do… What the deal?? Patrick  

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But these damn Mustad hooks are about all anyone carries.   Do these thing rust overnight?  Or am I doing something wrong? I open my fly box after a day fishing so they can air dry, sometimes soak my flies in Scotchgard (which I am convinced is useless), and generally try to assure they are dry before storing.  But rust they do… What the deal??

Boyhowdy, I ain’t heard that one before. I’ve been tying for about 35 years – on Mustads mostly. They’ve  had their problems with quality control: sizing, hook-to- hook uniformity, sharpness, closed eyes, open eyes, temper, and other assorted defects, but I ain’t never had a problem with rust. Don’t know. Glad to be of help :^).

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You obviously are not using a stainless model. Try the 34007 model in your favorite size.

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Been tying flies for a couple of years.  Here in S.C. and also in G.A. fly tying hooks are about as hard to find as hens teeth.  I like to stand in front of a wall of hooks and look at them while scratching my head.  This is half the fun of buying hooks to me.  But these damn Mustad hooks are about all anyone carries. Do these thing rust overnight?  Or am I doing something wrong? I open my fly box after a day fishing so they can air dry, sometimes soak my flies in Scotchgard (which I am convinced is useless), and generally try to assure they are dry before storing.  But rust they do… What the deal?? Patrick

Haven’t had that problem with Mustad. Do you put them away wet or do you dry them out on your patch first? I have heard that if you get your box wet or put your flies back in the box wet that they will rust. Jon

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Patrick: You might try tucking one or two of those small dessicant packets in your fly box–the kind that come in some food packages or in boxes of electronic gear. Or consider buying other hook brands through catalogs.  Dick Talleur’s last book, <Talleur’s Basic Fly Tying, has a brief hook substition chart  in the appendix (Daiichi, Mustad, Orvis, Tiemco, Partridge, Eagle Claw, et al.) Also, the Tach-it box, availabe at most stores, has detachable magnetic backing that lets you remove all your flies and dry them on a warm or sunny surface. Works.

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Dan – years ago, Orvis had a 3 piece 8′ for 6wt Traveler graphite rod – back in the mid ’70’s tl – les

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Hi there, I do believe that all of the graphite fly rods produced by Orvis are 2 or 4

piece. There are currently two 3 pc. rods available from Orvis in the US.  One is the PM-10 8614-3 (8 1/2 ft. 14 wt. 3 pc.)and the other is a Silver Label 10ft. 7wt. 3pc.  Otherwise the current Orvis rods ar all either 2 or 4 piece.    There may be some 3 pc. rods currently in production for the UK market as there are a number of different rods that Orvis makes specifically for that market that are not sold here.  Most of them are much longer than 8 ft. though. There was a 3 piece 6 wt. available a number of years ago called "The Osprey" but it was 9 1/2 ft. long if I remember correctly.                           Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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WANTED: LOOKING FOR A 3 PIECE-8FT. 6WT. ORVIS

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WANTED: LOOKING FOR A 3 PIECE-8FT. 6WT. ORVIS

Call John Valk at Grindstone Angling at (905) 689-0880.  I know he has an old Orvis three piece something or other.  It may be a 6 wt.  I don’t remember. Peter

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WANTED: LOOKING FOR A 3 PIECE-8FT. 6WT. ORVIS

Hi there, I do believe that all of the graphite fly rods produced by Orvis are 2 or 4 piece. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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How does one subscribe to this publication? thanks, Angie who can never have enought XS mags.

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How does one subscribe to this publication? thanks, Angie who can never have enought XS mags.

Hi Angie, If you buy any of the x-stitch magazines there is a card or a page which you can fill in and send back to the publisher. Yours in Stitching Sharon ****** — Sharon D Ward http://www.danesholme.demon.co.uk

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I have a South Bend bamboo 9′ rod( 2-tips) with only the markings of 57-9′ on it. Can anyone tell me what the 57 means and what weight the rod is. Thanks,

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I have a South Bend bamboo 9′ rod( 2-tips) with only the markings of 57-9′ on it. Can anyone tell me what the 57 means and what weight the rod is. Thanks,

From my limited knowledge, I belive the 57 refers to the rod’s taper and quality ranking within the South Bend family of rods. The 57 was a low to medium priced rod with South Bend’s Bass Action  (fast action). If there are no marking or decals on the rod itself (possibly removed in a prior refinish), its difficult to determine much more. — Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides page http://www.olfart.com

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The "57" indicates that is, in-fact, a model 57 and the 9, well, you guessed it, it’s a 9 footer!  The 57 was a "bass action" rod and was at the low end of the South Bend line. With a little more info such as reelseat type, grip type, ferrule type and wrap color the date of the rod could be narrowed down a bit. Dave

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I have a South Bend bamboo 9′ rod( 2-tips) with only the markings of 57-9′ on it. Can anyone tell me what the 57 means and what weight the rod is. Thanks,

The "57" refers to the model number (Model 57).  I would guess that it would take a 7 or 8 weight line. –Rich

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In regards to the South Bend 57-9. It was their lowest quality level rod. It should cast a 7 or 8 weight line well and is worth about $50.00.

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In regards to the South Bend 57-9. It was their lowest quality level rod. It should cast a 7 or 8 weight line well and is worth about $50.00.

I have a 59 -9′ Southbend Bamboo Rod (was my Dad’s) /w Pfluger reel, I would like to restore it.  I have both tips.  some  snake guides are missing.   any info?????

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writes: In regards to the South Bend 57-9. It was their lowest quality level rod. It should cast a 7 or 8 weight line well and is worth about $50.00. I have a 59 -9′ Southbend Bamboo Rod (was my Dad’s) /w Pfluger reel, I would like to restore it.  I have both tips.  some  snake guides are missing.   any info?????

Buy a copy of Michael Sinclair’s "Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook" for $25.00 (US) – ISBN #1-882418-11-5 As for Snake guides, Try to find Perfection snakes, they’ll match the originals, but I’ve been told that Perfection has converted over to a new mfg. process and has had delivery problems. Order an Angler’s Workshop catalog for a good selection of silk thread, both Godebrod and YLI (sold as Angler’s brand). A.W. # — (360) 225-9445 Don B. PS – I’m looking for smaller size Perfection guides (smaller than #2’s) if anyone has them for sale – please e-mail me.

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     I just inherited a South Bend bamboo rod, rod #323, 9′ length. The rod has a cloth bag, and is a three-piece with an extra tip section.  Can anybody give me an idea how old the rod is, what the rod might be worth, and  what line weight might be best?     A couple of the ferrules are loose, but other than that everything seems fine.  Can I just epoxy the ferrules, or should I give the rod a more thorough refinishing? Ed Heist College Station, TX (140 miles northeast of one of several Guadalupe Rivers)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     I just inherited a South Bend bamboo rod, rod #323, 9′ length. The rod has a cloth bag, and is a three-piece with an extra tip section.  Can anybody give me an idea how old the rod is, what the rod might be worth, and  what line weight might be best?    A couple of the ferrules are loose, but other than that everything seems fine.  Can I just epoxy the ferrules, or should I give the rod a more thorough refinishing? Ed Heist College Station, TX (140 miles northeast of one of several Guadalupe Rivers)

Ed, Try this url:    http://www.gorp.com/bamboo.htm     Also, buy a copy of Michael Sinclair’s "Bamboo Rod Restoration Handbook" a great book for do-it-yourself production bamboo rod restorations. If you try to remove the ferrules, look for small pins holding them on! Don

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : Science in most situations I use a canoe for fishing, I don’t go : beyond 6 ft. rods (exept for fly fishing), but the lenght is not the : question.  Untill now I used Fenwick Legacy or Walleye Class for : vertical jigging. They are too flexible for a precise hooking. What I : need is a sensitive and stiff pro-rated rod. I wonder if someone has : expierience with good quality rod designed for vertical jigging? :  St. Croix has a series of rods it calls "Legend" that includes a selection  in the 6 – 7 foot range that I think are very good for jigging: they are  light, sensitive, yet quite stiff.  They are also rugged.  Some of the local  guides use the 7′ 4-8 lb test model, rated as "light" by St. Croix, for  steelhead and lake trout.  greg pavlov

Also St. Croix has a line of fine fiberglass rods, I forget the exact model but their the lightest fiberglass I have ever held, and I believe glass rods are a better set up for fast moving baits….. more forgiving than graphite!!!!! Jerry

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: : Also St. Croix has a line of fine fiberglass rods, I forget the exact : model but their the lightest fiberglass I have ever held, and I : believe glass rods are a better set up for fast moving baits….. more : forgiving than graphite!!!!! I just went to one of those Bass Techniques classes that has seminars by several of the pros. Highly recommended by the way and I think I might go again next year. Anyways I was fortunate enough to have David Fritts as a speaker on crankbaits. For those of you who don’t know (there might be one) David is kind of the king of crankbaits on the tour. He was adamant about using fiberglass rods for crankbaiting. He said a slow fiberglass rod gives the fish a chance to swallow the bait before there is much tension resulting in a much better hookup. Soooo guess what I am doing Monday morning… Lets see 1-800-basspro… FWIW. Good fishing, — All About Computers      | (810) 456-3894 (work) 2887 Pontiac Ct.         | (810) 373-6865 (home) Auburn Hills, Michigan   | Fish, fish, and more fish… 48326

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Hello to fly-fishers here in the southeast — here’s a few things I felt worth posting: 1.  Davidson River pseudo – report.  Fished this fine river Saturday and Sunday (9/23 – 24).  Caught one small brown…most other people I talked to had the same kind of luck – a few had great luck ( I suspect their techniques were just much better – pattern didn’t seem to have much to do with it).  Anyways, fish were rising to small ( #20 – #22 ) blond midges, and subsurface takes were mainly on woolies / streamer type flies.  I didn’t talk to anyone personally who scored big, but heard of one gentleman go to town with some sort of a heavily weighted (split shot on the leader), small serendipity variation.  Still had a great time (aside from sleeping in the rain.) 2. Question #1:  Does anyone know the potential adverse affects of tying with lead?  I’ve been tying a lot of lead weighted flies and am not completely comfortable with the lead residue I end up with on my fingertips.  Can lead be absorbed through the skin?  If so, has anyone had success with particular brands of lead substitute? 3.  Question #2:  Fly line dressing.  I’ve never messed with it before, I guess because I’ve always fished with #5 line or heavier.  Got a new #4, and noticed that the line didn’t want to pick up off the water as easily.  I think some sort of dressing might be the cure for my ailments – I was planning on just using scotchguard, but don’t want to screw up the line.  Any suggestions from out there? One of the most encouraging things I see on the web is posts from those of us who fish the NC / Tenn / SC / North. GA. waters.  I think it would be great to set up a small forum of localized discussion for everyone’s Tight Lines, Terry

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Eminhizer) writes: Hello to fly-fishers here in the southeast — One of the most encouraging things I see on the web is posts from those of us who fish the NC / Tenn / SC / North. GA. waters.  I think it would be great to set up a small forum of localized discussion for everyone’s Tight Lines, Terry

Terry,  I fish weekends on the Chatooga (near Cashiers), Horsepasture, Whitewater and Tuckaseegee (sp?).  I think a continuing string on NC flyfishing conditions would be great. Everyone from the the area could just post short reports after each excursion. It would be a great resource.  I fished the Horsepasture near Toxaway Sunday (9/24).  Didn’t catch anything of any size. The three and four inch rainbows tore up the flies on almost every drift. I was using a #16 coachman, and then later when a small hatch started, #18 Light Cahill.   Have you fished the "Tuck" in the spring before the "harvest"? I caught the tail end this year and it was tremendous. Mike Ray

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IIt hit the fly which has landed me more fish than any other this season, the venerable #8 Muddler Minnow. Regarding the Tuckaseegee in the spring, I have had very good luck in the spring with big nymphs (Girdle Bugs, Hellgramites, etc.) and, of course, Muddler Minnows.  I’ve never had much dry fly luck there, though.  I’d be interested to know what part you fish.  I usually concentrate on the area around WCU. Haig Rudd

Haig, I usually fish just where the pavement stops (coming from the ice cream store) to the island. If thats crowded, there’s usually noone downstream of the island to the first bridge (the boundary for spring C & R). I’ve had pretty good luck with wooley buggers and stonefly nymphs.  I’ll try muddlers next time. Mike Ray

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I too would like to see a southeast flyfishing forum started.  I just returned from fishing the Davidson, just above and below the hatchery and caught numerous 12-13" rainbows.  This area always seems to hold plenty of trout.  The only difficult area is the quiet waters with sipping trout that are very difficult to catch.  Ive had the most luck with 7x leaders and size 24-26 ants or Griffith gnats.

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